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CT38 Interpretation - Sleep - 05-11-2019

Gidday boys,
I'm wondering how CT38 is to be interpreted during LR period as it is being interpreted differently by several members of the community.

"CT38: GUARDS and WARDENS cannot give orders to SURVIVING PRISONERS in any way. This includes telling them to FREEZE. However, they can order that a SURVIVING PRISONER begins an LR within 30 seconds and does not come dangerously close to any GUARD."

Does this mean that during LR the only time limit you can give is 30 seconds?
As well as this is there anything against delaying while out of LR but in LR period?
Cheers.


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Jared Fraser - 05-11-2019

Delaying is never allowed and that's why you can order them to lr in a certain time but as far as I know you can give them more time, it just makes sense. Sometimes t's might be in lr while doing a map game (e.g. hard race on renegade) and there are no admins to tp them out so they have to complete before the lr (as some lr's change speed or hp and could lead to their death) and so only giving them 30 seconds to get out and chose lr could be seen as unreasonable in certain situations and so it can/should be extended as it isnt really delaying the round as it is just giving the t's time to get to a safe area before lr'ing.

Delaying in lr while not in an lr is also against the rules as its not reasonable to waste time, sometimes a t wants to set up a rebel or get to an area to start their lr so that's fine but its not ok to just play a map game for no reason or something similar just to waste time. That's why the time to lr order exists


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Squidward - 05-11-2019

just !lr... you don't need to delay when there's 20 dead people waiting to play


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Juck - 05-11-2019

"Guards CAN order that a surviving prisoner begins an LR within 30 seconds"


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Sleep - 05-11-2019

(05-11-2019/01:51 PM)Jared Fraser Wrote: Delaying in lr while not in an lr is also against the rules

Hey Jared what rule says this must be missing it.


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Jared Fraser - 05-11-2019

(05-11-2019/01:58 PM)Sleep Wrote:
(05-11-2019/01:51 PM)Jared Fraser Wrote: Delaying in lr while not in an lr is also against the rules

Hey Jared what rule says this must be missing it.

CT36: Any delaying whilst in a LR (such as running away/hiding in a knife fight) will result in a slay. Other GUARDS can also kill delaying PRISONERS.

Although it doesn't say while not in an lr its common sense, you shouldn't delay the round, people want to play the game. Besides even if its against the rule, thats what the lr in x amount of seconds order is for, to make it so delaying in lr period cant occur, the warden or guards should not delay the round nor should the t's. An example of this is that it isnt ok for the warden to say lr next 8 minutes and let the t just run around and do nothing until the end, its just unreasonable


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Sleep - 05-11-2019

(05-11-2019/01:58 PM)Juck Wrote: "Guards CAN order that a surviving prisoner begins an LR within 30 seconds"

Yeah but that is one of two only orders, so the "can" is only meaning you can also not give the order?


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Craziboy_1 - 05-11-2019

It's more of people are using this to delay the round by denying other guards can issue the lr order. Yes it's common sense not to delay and to LR in a timely manner but some people on this server (not razor) lack it and decency.


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Sleep - 05-11-2019

(05-11-2019/02:00 PM)Jared Fraser Wrote:
(05-11-2019/01:58 PM)Sleep Wrote:
(05-11-2019/01:51 PM)Jared Fraser Wrote: Delaying in lr while not in an lr is also against the rules

Hey Jared what rule says this must be missing it.

CT36: Any delaying whilst in a LR (such as running away/hiding in a knife fight) will result in a slay. Other GUARDS can also kill delaying PRISONERS.

Although it doesn't say while not in an lr its common sense, you shouldn't delay the round, people want to play the game. Besides even if its against the rule, thats what the lr in x amount of seconds order is for, to make it so delaying in lr period cant occur, the warden or guards should not delay the round nor should the t's. An example of this is that it isnt ok for the warden to say lr next 8 minutes and let the t just run around and do nothing until the end, its just unreasonable
Why does the rule explicitly state "in a LR" whilst many other rules contain "LR period"?


RE: CT38 Interpretation - Kaos - 05-11-2019

Does it matter? Stop nitpicking just because you feel like it. LR or be shot, not hard.