[COMBAT SURF] Map Suggestion

[Kinq]

Bigloop literally kills the playercount when it gets voted for. It lasts for about 2 rounds then everyone gets bored of constantly bhopping, then going up elevator, then some more bhopping.

Just today there were 18 people on dust2, the map changed to bigloop and by the end of bigloop 90% of the server had left.

This and @"ihaveanafro"'s reply are the only valid points to argue that bigloop should be removed.
The map is definitely repetitive. I feel like if there were more boosts and tricks you could do it would be a lot better.
But Razor literally none of your points were correct at all, as if you couldn't think of this point.

However instead of suggesting that bigloop should straight up be removed, surely there are other ways to deal with this.
If we are able to, decrease the rounds on the map to only 5-10 rounds rather than 15.
Or, we could even find a bigloop with more boosts and tricks, however I think this would be rather difficult to find.


Thoughts on this idea? 50 aru @boostmeister @ihaveanafro Beax @"lil bro" Sir Lagalot Razor Chappo

+1, Razor speak for yourself

EDIT: it could save this thread some slack because so many people are talking about bigloop

[Beax]

Jae Razor I'm with Mathew_1 on this one.
Many players on surf (who do and don't have forums accounts) say rtv for bigloop without others influence, they genuinely enjoy the map.
When Jae said, "it's mainly up to the community and head admins" Mathew_1 is a part of the community so why can't he have a say??? Especially if he is admin meaning he probably has more privilege than a member. And all the people who want bigloop to stay are part of the community as well.

Razor He has the need to reply because Mathew_1 has the right to post his opinion. That's like me saying why do you feel the need to reply remove bigloop? He cares about surf and knows the players on surf and we know if bigloop was removed people would complain and be upset.

I reckon we should have a poll, there is a chat message every 10 minutes or so saying "Do you want bigloop to be kept in the map pool or not? Vote here: invexgaming.com.au/biglooppollthread" or something like that and have that up for a month. This can be good because we will get a lot more people joining the forums and more members, but also mainly vote on if we want bigloop or not. Byte

- Beax

[Mathew_1]

Beax I dont agree with having a poll to be honest.
This is because it wont be a genuine vote.
We have jailbreak players who can decide which is really stupid.

But I know that the only proper excuse that bigloop should be removed is because it is repetitive.
That's all we need to fix. If you hate a map for being bad at it, thats just unlucky, because others like the map.

[Crona]

bigloop is fun for bhopping with a mag7, ez kills

[Kinq]

Jae Razor I'm with Mathew_1 on this one.
Many players on surf (who do and don't have forums accounts) say rtv for bigloop without others influence, they genuinely enjoy the map.
When Jae said, "it's mainly up to the community and head admins" Mathew_1 is a part of the community so why can't he have a say??? Especially if he is admin meaning he probably has more privilege than a member. And all the people who want bigloop to stay are part of the community as well.

Razor He has the need to reply because Mathew_1 has the right to post his opinion. That's like me saying why do you feel the need to reply remove bigloop? He cares about surf and knows the players on surf and we know if bigloop was removed people would complain and be upset.

I reckon we should have a poll, there is a chat message every 10 minutes or so saying "Do you want bigloop to be kept in the map pool or not? Vote here: invexgaming.com.au/biglooppollthread" or something like that and have that up for a month. This can be good because we will get a lot more people joining the forums and more members, but also mainly vote on if we want bigloop or not. Byte

- Beax

Beax it's not a stupid idea, but Mathew_1 is right. We will have jailbreak players and 1v1 players that probably have never played surf capable of voting. We have to hold off on this idea, but I am on bigloop's side because it's an amazing map and I know that. #keepbigloopin

[SuperSoc]

Add more spacezone_woodflix

[zac]

Theres one reason why bigloop won't get removed, even if a lot of players dislike it, a lot of players like it so that's just too bad. If it gets voted for people won't be happy if it's gone.

[blue]

I just read all of this.

Firstly, I don’t know who rtvs for bigloop and says: “Can we play Bigloop!”. Now I have surfed for quite a while and strongly believe that it should be removed, if you ask any decent surfer “Do you like bigloop?” the majority will say no because it is small easy and played too often and I guarantee that. The ones that will say yes are the ones that think that it’s and easy map to get points on and be in the top 10. It is very unfair to new players that do play the map because it’s pretty much a death trap as soon as they drop to the bottom they just get killed by a much better player.

The elevator is also another thing that makes the map disliked, as it very easy to get kills through if you are a decent surfer. This actually pisses me off the most as whenever I go through the elevator, there are players like Beax who is good at aim and easily kills you. Now you can argue that I am just bad and over exaggerating but I can tell you this is not the case because it happens to other players as well. I don’t even think it should be considered a surf map as 99.99% of players just bhop and try get kills majority of the time.

Now I respect people saying that it should stay but please include some actual reasoning not just say that “Many players on surf (who do and don't have forums accounts) say rtv for bigloop without others influence, they genuinely enjoy the map.” because how do you really know if they actually enjoy the map? and I personally have never seen anyone say “please rtv for bigloop”. Overall this map is terrible, disgusting, simple, monotonous and has tons of hatred towards it.

Please remove bigloop.

[Jae]

surf_ski_nf if a pretty cool map, its played on a lot of the american servers
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...chtext=ski

Surf_skyscraper is a really fun map aswell
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...skyscraper

Surf 10x realoded was added before and removed but i think we should add it back
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...t=surf_10x

Surf skyworld is really cool aswell, an old school map
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...chtext=_nf