05-11-2019/02:49 PM
(05-11-2019/02:40 PM)Jared Fraser Wrote:(05-11-2019/02:33 PM)Craziboy_1 Wrote:(05-11-2019/02:26 PM)Saanta Wrote: tbh why even give orders when you aren't the warden, plus as stated above yes they shouldn't be allowed like 8+ minutes to lr but if its reasonable then its allowed. They aren't forced to lr within the 30 seconds. Its just default and minimum is 20 sec, Its more a guideline not has to only be 30. Anyway as also said above warden over rules any orders given so when you were saying lr within 30 and knifing distance kos isn't valid when jared gave the orders to lr within a minute or whatever
While I can see what CT4 say, CT38 also clearly says there are only 2 orders that can be given. Sure, warden could say knifing distance isn't kos but there is no reason for warden to increase or decrease LR time window as setting it below 30 seconds is unfair and against what CT38 says and increasing it above 30 seconds goes against CT38 and can be seen as delaying.
"tbh why even give orders when you aren't the warden, plus as stated above yes they shouldn't be allowed like 8+ minutes to lr but if its reasonable then its allowed." It should never be viewed reasonable to delegate 8+ minutes to LR.
"They aren't forced to lr within the 30 seconds" Yes they are, CT38 forces them to.
"Its just default and minimum is 20 sec, Its more a guideline not has to only be 30." Nowhere does it say that the minimum time is 20 seconds, this is why clarity is needed as people have their own interpretations . CT38 says 30 seconds, no more, no less.
As I said before it is on a case to case basis and lr'ing in 30 seconds could be unreasonable such as that of a situation i gave above. A t trapped in hard race on renegade is at risk of death, they might not be able to do some lr's they want as it could increase their change of dying (e.g. speed knife fight or dodgeball) and so I can be seen as reasonable and not delaying to slightly increase the lr timer, allowing the t's to get out of the situation and then proceed
This is the last post I'm making on this thread as it's going on a large tangent and getting out of hand, I think its best just to leave it to staff now
This is a very niche situation but can fall under reasonable lr extention. However, leaving the rule as vague as it is for this one situation is unreasonable and some form of edit or community edit should be made to patch up these holes new players can find and exploit as they lack any sort of consequences