Gandalf Abuse Report

[Ownaj]

Name of offender: Gandalf < The admin.

Server (Surf Combat/Surf FFA DM/ Jailbreak/ FFA DM): Jb

Steam ID [Find it here]: Attatched to forums

Steam Profile Link: Attatched to forums

Date & Time:11:37 Nzt 27/04/16 9:37 server demo time?

Map: jb_spy_vs_spy_beta7

Witnesses (if any): n/a just heaps of people on the server dunno who saw it

Evidence: Server demo: 27-04-2016-2057-jb_spy_vs_spy_beta7.dem.bz2
https://i.gyazo.com/5bf1661b700af508a12e...35e737.png < 4 commands for as he puts it 1 freekill? ok.

Reason for abuse report: My orders were hot cells ass on bars and There are 2 hot cells, cells 1 and 7 2 people in cell 7 weren't ass on bars so i killed one of them as i was killing the 2nd gandalf Slayed warned swapped And then after i said your fucked gandalf thats fucked (In retort to him doing these commands on me) He kicked me. I think this is the wrong use of admin commands in this situation. Earlier this morning He said That he would ban me for "Being cocky" When i told him to look at open books warnings after Open Book freekilled, saying "Don't tell an admin how to do his job"
for this i haven't got the demo as i don't know the exact time on it but im pre sure gandalf will admit to it. < (If anyone was there when this happened please post below.) Obviously this is just straight up wrong "banned for being cocky" 4 commands for 1 freekill. Gandalf has held a grudge against me for some time (before he got admin till now) where he constantly nitpicks at me taking any chance he can to say im wrong or point out my flaws or w.e Just to get back at me He's 22 Grow up. I may not act "proper" or "mature" all the time but an admin who is 22 shouldn't act like that.

[gandalf]

OK so the rule of hot cells ass on bars a cell stops being a hot cell when it is known it is not a hot cell anymore.Thus u found the cell that had the vent. the other cell wasnt broken as a long time member and ex admin you should know the rules. I said to you not to get too cocky towards me because i will ban him as i warned him it will be last warning for him. HE constantly tells admins what to do which frustrates us. not me but other admins aswell, I dont nit pick on anyone if someone breaks a rule i deal with them according to the situation. in your situation u freekilled one guy
i slayed warned and swapped you for it thus i do per non accidental rule broken by a ct you continued to swear at me once i have done so. i kicked you so i dont have to hear anymore abuse that you wanted to say towards me and to let you cool down before reentering the server.

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cell 1 was hot cell, cell 7 wasnt im pretty sure dandy.

[Josh]

Exactly. You knew that 1 was the hotcell yet you still decided to give cell 7 orders. They were not considered a hotcell because it was the fake vent. You then freekilled them both for not being ass on bars. I saw that you were swapped and slayed. I did not see what happened once you were slayed so i cannot make a comment on it.

Gandalf has not shown any abuse here as you freekilled. You were lucky you werent ct banned.
You were being cocky and i was quite pissed of at you at the time. Gandalf was just doing his job. He was warning you, he was not showing a grudge held against you in any way.

[Ownaj]

"I said to you not to get too cocky towards me because i will ban him as i warned him it will be last warning for him." Wroooong You didn't warn me until tonight this happened hours before and because a guy freekilled and you didnt check his warns or do anything i said in admin chat check open books warns i warned him ages ago and you took that opportunity to tell me that my warn means nothing and that im telling admins what they should or shouldn't do instead of dealing with the freekiller and after you got mad about it you said ima ban you if you keep being cocky because you hold a grudge there were no grounds to ban me on at all.

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Exactly. You knew that 1 was the hotcell yet you still decided to give cell 7 orders. They were not considered a hotcell because it was the fake vent. You then freekilled them both for not being ass on bars. I saw that you were swapped and slayed. I did not see what happened once you were slayed so i cannot make a comment on it.

Gandalf has not shown any abuse here as you freekilled. You were lucky you werent ct banned.
You were being cocky and i was quite pissed of at you at the time. Gandalf was just doing his job. He was warning you, he was not showing a grudge held against you in any way.

Your statement becomes invalid as soon as you said i killed 2 people when only one was killed.

[gandalf]

i told you warns older than 3 weeks are invalid warns and shouldnt be taken into consideration. i can only deal with what i see if someone freekills all i can get is ask and get storys of both sides which i do, you openely admitting you have killed one makes his speech valid again by mentioning you have actually killed someone in that cell.

[Josh]

"I said to you not to get too cocky towards me because i will ban him as i warned him it will be last warning for him." Wroooong You didn't warn me until tonight this happened hours before and because a guy freekilled and you didnt check his warns or do anything i said in admin chat check open books warns i warned him ages ago and you took that opportunity to tell me that my warn means nothing and that im telling admins what they should or shouldn't do instead of dealing with the freekiller and after you got mad about it you said ima ban you if you keep being cocky because you hold a grudge there were no grounds to ban me on at all.

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Exactly. You knew that 1 was the hotcell yet you still decided to give cell 7 orders. They were not considered a hotcell because it was the fake vent. You then freekilled them both for not being ass on bars. I saw that you were swapped and slayed. I did not see what happened once you were slayed so i cannot make a comment on it.

Gandalf has not shown any abuse here as you freekilled. You were lucky you werent ct banned.
You were being cocky and i was quite pissed of at you at the time. Gandalf was just doing his job. He was warning you, he was not showing a grudge held against you in any way.

Your statement becomes invalid as soon as you said i killed 2 people when only one was killed.

I saw 2 in the cell. My bad. Its still a freekill tho.

[Grom]

"I said to you not to get too cocky towards me because i will ban him as i warned him it will be last warning for him." Wroooong You didn't warn me until tonight this happened hours before and because a guy freekilled and you didnt check his warns or do anything i said in admin chat check open books warns i warned him ages ago and you took that opportunity to tell me that my warn means nothing and that im telling admins what they should or shouldn't do instead of dealing with the freekiller and after you got mad about it you said ima ban you if you keep being cocky because you hold a grudge there were no grounds to ban me on at all.

Ownaj if you consistently break more rules, the punishments will become more severe
So he can ban you if he thinks it is right
I get that you wanna help the admin do their  job
But if you just go off and specifically tell people what to do as if you were that admin, any admin will not like that
You have to also understand that admins will disagree with what you think is the sufficient punishment sometimes
They're the ones who are meant to deal with rule breakers not you
You would be better off telling admins someone did an I.e free kill so they know to keep watch for further rules to be broken by the same guy.
Please understand that people like gandalf will not tolerate these actions anymore

Exactly. You knew that 1 was the hotcell yet you still decided to give cell 7 orders. They were not considered a hotcell because it was the fake vent. You then freekilled them both for not being ass on bars. I saw that you were swapped and slayed. I did not see what happened once you were slayed so i cannot make a comment on it.

Gandalf has not shown any abuse here as you freekilled. You were lucky you werent ct banned.
You were being cocky and i was quite pissed of at you at the time. Gandalf was just doing his job. He was warning you, he was not showing a grudge held against you in any way.

OWNAJ

Your statement becomes invalid as soon as you said i killed 2 people when only one was killed.

State is still valid
No matter what number of people in that cell the bottom line is it is a free kill and you should accept it and move on

Gandalf did not abuse
He gave you an appropriate punishment based off your actions
Slay for free kill and kick for arguing I believe it was

[gutterfucker (BANNED)]

So, there was a free kill: means a slay for Ownaj.
Can we get back to the topic?

[gandalf]

yes. freekill, then continues to abuse me with microphone.so I did what anyone else will do and kick.

[Ownaj]

"You would be better off telling admins someone did an I.e free kill so they know to keep watch for further rules to be broken by the same guy." Which is what i did on this demo http://fastdl.streamline-servers.com/fastdl/InvexG/11201/demo/27-04-2016-1504-jb_renegade_v5.dem.bz2 And got told that im not admin and that i shouldn't be telling him how to do his job even though he didnt see it and was doing nothing i told him to check his warns. This is also where the "I'll ban you for being cocky" happened tick 135000 Onwards.